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All right, we're talking about, well, with Cleek Blakeman, NFL referee,

Cleop Blakeman, we teased it about thin-skinned reps. And we were talking about, well, with Cleat Blakman, NFL referee, Cleet Blakman, we teased it about thin-skinned reps.

And we were talking about a little bit off the air, too,

about how sometimes when players start to fight,

it's always the second guy that gets called.

But I have noticed, and you confirm this,

I see a lot more just breaking up fights and moving on instead

of giving somebody a 15-yarder, which makes sense to the fans, because, you know,

15 yards is a big change in the game, you know?

Yeah.

It's, it's make a difference.

Just a couple shoves.

Who cares, man?

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