1KHO 619: Ungoverned by Four Walls, | Jess Warner and Adele Hopper, TimberNook Australia

The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

Ginny Yurich

Parenting, Kids & Family

4.9 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

When pediatric OT Adele Hopper and early childhood educator Jess Warner stepped outside the clinic and classroom, everything changed—regulation improved, anxiety eased, and play exploded into real learning. In this powerful, hope-filled conversation from Australia, we trace children’s journeys from cautious observers to joyful risk-takers, and the way true, child-led play builds executive function, social courage, and deep confidence. You’ll hear how TimberNook’s long, unhurried blocks of outdoor time create what school and screens can’t: mixed-age “neighborhood play,” sibling bonding, and communities where grandparents pull up a chair and stay. Parents report calmer evenings and better sleep; facilitators witness science, literacy, and problem-solving emerge organically—no adult-made toys required. Adele and Jess also open the door for parents itching to bring this to their towns: how they found land, partnered with Scouts, and let nature (plus a few loose parts) do the heavy lifting. If you’ve felt that tug to start something, this episode is your green light—and a reminder that childhood thrives when it’s ungoverned by four walls. Listen in, share it with a friend, and then take the first step outside. Learn more about TimerNook here Learn more about Mother Earthed here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:05.0	So we started the business two years ago.
0:07.0	We had a few people who were used to PCs and this was their first foray into Macs.
0:12.0	But it's been super smooth getting everyone onto those devices and everyone seems really, really happy.
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0:26.3	Welcome to a 1000 Hours Outside podcast, and I'm his Jim Marriage and the founder of 100 Hours Outside.
0:31.7	And if you've been here for a while, you know that I am a massive fan of Angela Hanscom and her book
0:36.6	balanced in Barefoot and the
0:38.0	Timber Nook programs that are global around the world, but also we need more of them.
0:42.7	And so here and there, we're talking to different providers that are doing Timber Nook programming,
0:46.5	both in schools and in their communities.
0:48.4	And today I have two lovely women from Australia who have a Timber Nook program there. Adele Hopper and Jess Warner, welcome
0:56.7	to the both of you. Thank you. Thank you so much for having us. We're very excited to be here.
1:02.5	Very thrilled to be here. I think just even to strengthen that message that is already so
1:08.0	deeply ingrained within the 1,000 hours community, which is one,
1:12.7	you know, time in nature and then two, time for kids to actually dive into play.
1:17.7	So thank you for sharing this conversation.
1:20.0	Yeah.
1:20.5	Extended time.
1:21.4	It's so needed for our kids for their optimal development, but also for their vibrancy
1:26.2	and their love of life. And I always say there should be a
1:29.4	Timber Nook, at least in every county, every city. I don't know how things are spread out in Australia,
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