Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside podcast. My name is Ginny Urich and the founder of 1000 Hours

Outside and I am beyond thrilled and honored. Def for the fourth time, Jack Carr is back. Welcome.

Thank you so much. I always look forward to our conversations. You always ask the best questions.

So I saw this on my schedule today. I was so Oh, you are coming in from Morocco.

Tell us, what are you doing there? Rocko. Yeah, yeah, so this is Bronco. It's about one in the afternoon, just zipped back from set. And as soon as we're done, I'll zip back to set, filming True Believer, which is my second book. And we're finishing it up out here, just a few more days to go, really. So it's a full on sprint to the end, trying to get everything that we need.

And then roll right into post-production where you take all the pieces from the last seven months or so and start putting those together in edits and then start refining those going forward. So that's about another six-month process or so. And then it should come out next summer. I don't know. I haven't heard exactly

when, but I would suspect next summer, but I don't know. Wow, Jack, it is really unbelievably

impressive. I was looking back at our other interviews and they're so close together, especially

given the fact that these books that you write are so hefty. They're long. They're filled with so much information.

It was like 2023, mid-24, 2024 again, 2025. You just said, you're going to go from here.

As soon as this is done, you're going to go back to writing another book. Are you feeling stretched?

I'm feeling pressure from the publisher because this was supposed to come out in June, but this one in particular, it wasn't really the length of Cry Havoc.

It was more having to write every character's perspective on events through the lens of 1968.

So in 1968, they're 70 years old, 60 years old, 40 years old,

25 years old, whatever it is, that character had only those number of years before

1968 to form their character and their perspective on any given event or situation.

So that I'd never done before because all of my thrillers thus far have been contemporary other than the nonfiction targeted Beirut.

But all the contemporary thrillers, it's just much easier in your mind to be like, I'm writing this in 2023.

It's coming out in 2024 and you just kind of know everyone's ages and where they're from.

And so it's just kind of easier to step into their shoes and understand what they would have experienced in their life because you're writing from a contemporary perspective.

But when you go back to 1968, you have to think, okay, who would have experienced World War II?

Who would have experienced the Depression?

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