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The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

1KHO 473: Why the Imagination Still Matters | Andrew Klavan, The Kingdom of Cain

The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

Ginny Yurich

Parenting, Kids & Family

4.91.8K Ratings

🗓️ 2 May 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

On this unforgettable episode, international bestselling author and podcaster Andrew Klavan joins Ginny Yurich to reflect on the surprising ways imagination shapes who we are. From stick duels in the woods to secret readings of the New Testament, Klavan’s childhood was filled with the kind of quiet, reflective space that allowed his creativity—and ultimately his faith—to grow. He explains how the loss of that space in modern childhood is costing us more than we realize, and how imagination isn’t just for play—it’s a moral and spiritual training ground. Together, they explore how beauty can rise out of darkness, how stories point us toward truth, and why the smallest unseen kindness might just echo into eternity. Whether discussing murder mysteries, motherhood, or the role of art in shaping the soul, Klavan brings deep wisdom, wit, and clarity to the conversation. This episode is a rich reminder that imagination is not a luxury—it’s a lifeline. ** Get your copy of The Kingdom of Cain here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

If you're a Christian, imagine what life would be like if you didn't have access to you or never even seen a Bible in your own language.

0:07.9

For many people around the world, that is their reality.

0:10.6

Crew has missionaries in almost every country, and they're seeing people's lives changed.

0:15.7

Thousands of men, women, and children are coming to faith, but simply don't have access to a Bible of their own.

0:21.2

In parts of Africa, crew missionaries have to share one Bible between several people.

0:26.0

In Europe, teens are asking for more Bibles than we can provide.

0:29.4

And in closed nations, this good news is spreading at an astonishing rate,

0:33.5

but they need more physical Bibles to keep up with the growth.

0:36.6

People are searching for truth and finding answers in God's Word.

0:39.7

That's why I love partnering with Crew.

0:41.6

With just $24 a month, you can give three people the gift of God's Word every month.

0:46.2

And as a thank you, Crew will provide 12 meals to those in need,

0:49.8

and you'll receive a free copy of my book until the street lights come on.

0:53.2

To give text our

0:54.8

H-O-U-R to 7-1-3-2-6 or visit give.cru.org slash our H-O-U-R. That's H-O-U-R to 7-1-3-2-6.

1:08.1

Message and data rates may apply U.S. addresses only. Your monthly gift can truly make a

1:13.7

massive impact. Are you ready? Yes, I am. Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside podcast. My name is

1:21.3

Ginny Euret. I almost will get emotional. Andrew Claven is here. Welcome. Thank you, it's nice to meet you. It is so nice to meet you. Andrew Claven is here. Welcome.

1:29.3

Thank you, Janice. Nice to meet you.

1:34.7

It is so nice to meet you. I want to try and say I'm a super fan, but actually I have three of the books.

1:39.0

Oh, wow. And I know you've written so many books, but I've read The Great Good Thing,

1:42.5

when Christmas comes, The Truth and Beauty, some of your more recent ones.

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