He's an easy, high level conversation.

And think about like a drug.

Think about like psychedelics, right?

Psychedelics, you take it in the right settings.

It does amazing things for somebody, right?

All that's doing is binding to your serotonin receptors

and making you happy.

Something that you do, you get that boost of happiness

in serotonin and dopamine when you hug somebody you love

or somebody smile at you.

It's you, you know what I'm saying?

So people gotta understand how powerful our minds are, right?

And think about like someone that's wildly intelligent,

like a Michael Erdogan, right?

I admire his intellect and his fluidity and creativity

and how he speaks, how eloquent you know what I'm saying?

I don't know what his issues are and everything.

I don't care.

I just like his mental sportsmanship, right?

That man spent his life, the first book I've ever had

is the Michael Erdogan reader and the forward.

He said that I practice being smart, like Michael Jackson,

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