On 19 keys and this is high level conversation.

The spiritual journey is tough, man, because you know, we don't live in a very spiritual world, right?

This world is increasingly going away from spiritual things, right?

Technology advances, but man does it, right?

And that's sort of at the point where we are right now where technology is constantly outpatient and growth of man.

And man looks at the consequence of technological advancement and he thinks that he's wrong, but he's really not right?

Your ability to think, your ability to concentrate, your ability to have just really good mental and spiritual health.

You understand me like for me, maintaining sanity is, you know, it's a daily fight.

You know, because you live in a world where you know it doesn't represent you.

And you still have to go out in that world every single day, right?

And if you be too much of yourself, right, then the world will start attacking you and be against you.

So the balance of maintaining authenticity, you know, is a spirit on the mental balance as well, right?

Like growing up in the hoods of America, the most tough is guys, the men that I know they go through that crises of that right there.

Of like, damn, I can't even show up in my real self because the rest of the world looks like that is booger.

And it's that me because we're so calmly past the time where it's celebrated.

You know what I mean to be yourself and authenticity.

You feel me? So that's another battle that I feel is key.

So when I hear you talk about spiritual journey, I really want to unlock that a bit as far as what goes into the ideology of, you know, your spiritual journey.

Well, you know, firstly, is this realization, right?

This ultimate realization of understanding that you have to seek internally, you know, saying there's more about an internal retreat.

And you're going to be important about like the world that we live in today.

Everything is so external, you know, saying like people put an emphasis on these things that are outside of of ourselves, which are like, you know, symbols of power or success or whatever it may be.

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