Hello everyone, welcome to this extra special live episode of the spiked podcast at the Battle of Ideas with an audience as well. I mean I've got my back to most of them, but we're still really pleased to have you here thank you all so much for

for coming to this I'm Fraser Meyers deputy editor of Spiked and host of the

Spiked podcast normally Ella Whelan would be here with us but she's just giving birth to a beautiful baby

so she will be on maternity leave for the foreseeable.

But with me as ever Tom Slater editor of Sp, and we've got some extra special guests,

G.B. News in I have following in Mann.

We've got Andrew Doyle, author of the New Puritans, and Paul Embry, author of Despised.

So today, coming up on the the show we will be talking about the

turmoil I think it's fair to call it with the Liz trust government. If the House of

cards of the Trans Lobby is about to fall with the scandals around mermaids and of course the tyranny of big tech and then we'll be taking questions from you guys to the audience so you know get your thinking caps on.

Right so Right, so I think it's fair to say this has not been the best week for Liz Truss. She's lost her Chancellor, she's had to U-turn for the second time on one of the major planks of her kind of economic policy.

I mean, Andrew, what have you made of that?

Well, Quasikwattang is the Lady Jane Gray of the Conservative Party. I feel very bad actually for him, but you know that's the what four

Chancellor's within the year. I mean it really doesn't look good and I imagine this is the

inevitable thing that happens when when politicians are

largely driven by careerism rather than vocation because then you end up with

power grabs and it becomes delightfully Shakespearean doesn't it and of course now we've

got people talking about how they're going to plot to install

Penny Mordent and Rashi Sunak. I mean it's not quite the level of Hamlet, but it is interesting, isn't it? So, and all of this backstabbing, you know, we've had Boris Johnson, who was ousted in this very sort of dramatic way.

So I don't know what the future is now for Liz trust. I mean, she started out getting all these plaudits for saying

actually conservative things, which people didn't expect from a conservative leader.

But what good is it if she's just going to fall apart in this sort of catastrophic way and not stick to her guns know say that she's not for turning and then

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