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Today, we're delighted to welcome as our guest, Stephanie Baker, an award-winning investigative reporter at Bloomberg News,

who first reported from Moscow in the 1990s and who was just published

punishing Putin inside the global economic war to bring down Russia. Stephanie, welcome to the podcast.

Thanks for having me. Now, you note in the book that since the full-scale invasion of Ukraine,

Russia is the most sanctioned country in the world. And yet at the same time, it's too big to sanction.

We definitely had a sense of this as we followed the story for the last year and a half on the podcast.

But can you just give us a little bit of a sense of the scale of these sanctions and what

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