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I've dream that that you were twisting

through seven suns of gold

and the gypsy was insisting

their story must be told

I came two in the morning

but I took it as a warning, that you might be a treasure.

I could touch but never hold.

So welcome to Dr. Rob Kelly to the Sober Four podcast.

It's nice to finally meet you.

You too, Bronica. Good to be here. Thank you for having me. I've seen you pop up and I know we've both had to reschedule this a couple of times and I've seen your staff on social media and stuff. And then I didn't realize until you got into the call, you're also a Brit that lives in America. I know. It's awesome. There are a few of us around,

but it's really nice to meet another Brit, I must admit. Every time I talk through, I go to the

off license, you got what? Oh, sorry, liquor store. It's all the little stuff like that.

Did you marry an American or did you? I did. I married a girl from Dallas. Well, she was born in Austin. Yeah. Yeah. I married an American as well. So Dr. Rob has overcome homelessness, alcohol dependency, trauma, PTSD and MDD. What's MDD? I don't know what MDD is. I don't know who put that in there, but I don't think there's any such thing. I don't know. Oh, it's an error. And a world world event to be the Gordon Ramsey of the addiction

treatment world. Before Rob succumbed to addiction and mental health issues, he played bass

guitar at Appi Studios with Queen David Bowie and Alton John. You're one of those people who's just

had like 15 lives in one lifetime.

You've been homeless. You have a PhD from Oxford University and you're a doctor of psychology,

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