198: Unabridged Interview: Nancy French

No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

Lee Camp

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 555 Ratings

🗓️ 7 March 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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This is our unabridged interview with Nancy French. Nancy French has spent her career helping others tell their stories. As a five-time New York Times bestselling ghostwriter, she has worked with prominent conservatives, celebrities, and political figures. But in her new memoir, Ghosted: An American Story, Nancy turns the pen on herself, recounting her own journey through faith, politics, and personal betrayal. A lifelong conservative, Nancy never expected that standing against Donald Trump would lead to ostracism from her own community. Nor did she foresee how uncovering systemic abuse at a major Christian camp would result in personal vitriol toward her. In this deeply honest conversation, Nancy and Lee discuss the personal cost of truth-telling, the cultural divide in America, and how faith can persist even amid profound disappointment. Show Notes Resources: Ghosted: An American Story by Nancy French David French’s NYT column USA Today article: Kanakuk Abuse Investigation Gretchen Carlson’s work on NDAs, workplace harassment No More SAMHSA Similar NSE episodes: David French & Russell Moore: How Should Christians Do Politics Taking the Beatitudes Seriously: John Dear Kristin Du Mez sits with David French PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTubeFollow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTubeFollow Lee: Instagram | TwitterJoin our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:04.3	Noseful Endeavor about ideas, culture, and how we might make sense of the world, there's another
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0:14.2	daily news podcast, and each weekday, Mike takes about 30 minutes to examine the stories shaping
0:19.3	our moment. What makes the show interesting
0:21.5	is that it resists the usual partisan scripts. Mike brings on economists, historians, journalists,
0:27.3	and other thinkers to look at issues from multiple angles. One day he might unpack the dynamics
0:31.7	of a major political story. Another day, he might explore the psychology behind public outrage
0:36.7	or while we humans are so quick to believe strange things.
0:40.6	Mike's an award-winning journalist whose work has appeared in an outlets like The Atlantic, the free press, and the Washington Post.
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