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198: The Murder of Ahmaud Arbery & a Mysterious Pool Death

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Let's Go To Court!

Comedy, True Crime, History

4.84.8K Ratings

🗓️ 8 December 2021

⏱️ 178 minutes

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Nearly every day, Ahmaud Arbery went out for a jog. February 23, 2020 was no exception. His route included a loop through Satilla Shores – a neighborhood just a couple miles from his own, but not nearly as racially diverse. After a while, a truck with a Confederate flag vanity plate began following Ahmaud. Inside the truck were Gregory and Travis McMichael. Both men had guns. They yelled at Ahmaud to stop. They wanted to “talk to him.” Ahmaud wasn’t interested. He tried to get away from the men, but soon, a man named William Roddie Bryan joined in. He used his truck to trap Ahmaud. Ahmaud had nowhere to run. 

Then, Brandi tells us about a mysterious pool death. As handyman Gerald Gardener walked toward the back of Samira and Adam Frasch’s home, he spotted the couple’s dog running loose by the pool. Then he saw a pair of sandals. One was caught under a hose on the first step of the pool. The other floated nearby. Gerald moved in closer. That’s when he spotted Samira, dead at the bottom of the pool.

And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases.

In this episode, Kristin pulled from:
Episode of 20/20, “Nowhere to Run”
Episode of 48 hours, “A Promise to Ahmaud”
“Ex-Brunswick DA indicted for misconduct in Ahmaud Arbery case surrenders,” by Brittany Muller for News4Jax
“In Ahmaud Arbery’s name, Georgia repeals citizen’s arrest law,” by Emma Hurt for NPR
“Factbox: Who was Ahmaud Arbery?” by Rich McKay for Reuters
“The citizen’s arrest law cited in Arbery’s killing dates back to the Civil War,” by Frances Robles for the New York Times
“Ahmaud Arbery: Waycross district attorney explains in letter why no one was arrested in 25-year-old’s shooting death,” by Amber Krycka for Action News Jax
“Race not a factor jurors will consider in the case of three men accused of murdering Ahmaud Arbery,” by Anne Schindler for First Coast News

In this episode, Brandi pulled from:
“Illicit Affairs” episode In Ice Cold Blood
“At The Bottom Of The Pool” episode Dateline
“Frasch murder investigation reveals couple’s torrid existence” by Jennifer Portman, Pensacola News Journal
“Samira Frasch” chillingcrimes.com

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0:00.0

One semester of law school. One semester of criminal justice. Two experts. I'm Kristen Caruso. I'm Brandy Egan.

0:08.9

Let's go to court. On this episode, I'll be talking about the murder of a mod arbery. And I'll be talking about a mysterious pool death.

0:18.4

What's the mystery? Exactly.

0:21.4

The mystery. Okay, oh, Kristen hates mysteries. I do hate mysteries. I like everything to be cut and dry.

0:31.4

I especially black and white, but that felt a little too on the nose. That is a base on the nose for your case. Yeah.

0:39.0

Woo, everybody buckle. When I texted you that I was doing this case, you were like, oh, I was a sound you made.

0:52.0

I couldn't. I couldn't not do it. Yeah. I mean, it's big stuff. It's been in the news. You know, okay, I had you know what?

1:04.0

No, we're doing the thing where we talk about the case. No, what was that mean? Well, it's like I should tell you on this.

1:10.0

No, I mean, I should just tell the story and then give my thoughts on it instead of trying to give you my thoughts and then tell the story.

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