What's up everybody? This is Cortland from AndyHackers.com and you're listening to the

IndieHackers podcast. More people than ever are building cool stuff online and making a lot of

money in the process. And on this show, I sit down with these Indie hackers to discuss the ideas,

the opportunities, and the strategies they're taking advantage of so the rest of us can do the same. I'm here with Nadav Kisan, the founder of Riverside, a tool that allows you to record podcast episodes like we're doing right now. So you just create a room, you send people the invite link and they join, and you click record. And that's pretty much it. At the end of it, you've got like a high quality audio files and video files that are locally recorded for everybody. And I love it. I've been using it for Andy Hackers for the last year. Nadav, welcome to the show. Thanks to that. So a year ago, actually, I was just pulling up our chats. You were messaging me pretty much every single day. Like, hey, Cortland, when are you going to try Riverside? You know, I'm an indie hacker. I've been building this cool thing. And at the time, I think the way you described it was, is a podcast recording tool. Wow, it's even longer than a year ago. So October 2019, you said, hi, Cortland, love your podcasts. I built a podcast recording tool where listeners can call in live and ask their questions to the host. Would

you give it a try? And then I didn't respond to that first message, but you were relentless.

So the way, if I got all the way back indeed at the time when we were, we were still like

experimenting what are we really building probably what's not

even the right way but i reached out to everyone like who is inspiring me although actually even

if you think it's cool that doesn't mean anything like the market at the end depends whether

it's going to work or not right but you were super focused on trying to make me think it was cool

how much revenue were you doing back then back in like march 2020 do remember? Probably we had one kind of paying customer who scammed us.

We didn't have a payment system set up so we had just someone, we sent the invoice to that person.

It was an influencer on Instagram. She had like 500,000 followers. My girlfriend thought she could be interested in using her too.

So we got her to use her website, but she never actually paid us. So we had her and then we launched

on a product hunt, I think around 14th March. And then we had potentially two paying customers.

The payment system apparently wasn't working well.

So like we figured out a week later, so maybe we had a bit more, but we had like two paying customers when we launched on product count.

So that that says a lot, even product hunt, like it's cool for yourself, but it doesn't really do much for certain products.

I didn't know that. I don't know you got scammed by your very first,

should have been paying customer.

Like she kept signing up for the free trial.

We didn't really have a limitation at the point.

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