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The Grenfell Tower Inquiry Podcast

198 Expert Witnesses

The Grenfell Tower Inquiry Podcast

BBC

News

4.8627 Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2022

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

This week, the Inquiry moved on from examining the aftermath of the fire and began hearing evidence from a series of experts in fire engineering. Luke Bisby, professor of fire and structures at Edinburgh University, described the results of a test on the cladding panels and insulation installed on the tower as the “most shocking experiment” he had ever seen. Barbara Lane, a fire safety expert, told the Inquiry that the culture inside the Building Control sector was of “worrying standards”. And Ivan Stoianov, an expert in water distribution systems, said that the quantity of water available for firefighters at Grenfell was “more than adequate.” Presenter: Sharon Hemans Producers: Kristiina Cooper Researcher: Marcia Veiga Sound Engineer: Gareth Jones Editor: Hugh Levinson

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:05.1

Hello, and welcome to the Grenfell Tower Inquiry podcast with me, Sharon Heemans.

0:10.6

This week, we heard evidence from the inquiries expert witnesses.

0:14.4

A fire safety engineer described what he saw during a fire test on the cladding panels installed on the tower.

0:20.3

These were some of the most shocking experiments I have ever witnessed after about 15 years

0:24.5

of working in these labs.

0:26.0

And an expert witness criticised the culture inside the building sector.

0:29.8

It was absolutely clear before this fire and I think you don't need expert evidence since

0:35.2

the fire that there was a climate of worrying standards.

0:40.9

Let's get started with the evidence. The inquiry started a new phase by hearing from a series

0:45.6

of experts in fire engineering who gave presentations on the fire safety regime.

0:50.9

Luke Bisby, who was a professor of fire and structures at Edinburgh University,

0:55.9

explained a series of tests performed on materials used at Grenfell Tower.

1:00.6

The inquiry has already established that the cladding panels were the primary cause

1:04.6

of the rapid spread of fire at Grenfell on the 14th of June 2017.

1:10.0

Professor Bisby's tests provide detailed information

1:12.8

on how both cladding and insulation react to fire.

1:16.8

He used new samples for the tests

1:18.5

and showed videos of his experiments.

1:21.5

The most dramatic results came from cladding panel manufacturers Arconic,

1:26.1

Rainabond aluminium composite material, made from two aluminium skins sandwiching a polyethylene core, known as ACMPE.

1:35.5

This is the cladding material that covered the whole of the exterior of the tower.

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