198: Be Present Not Perfect with Shauna Niequist
The Next Right Thing
Emily P. Freeman
4.8 • 5.3K Ratings
🗓️ 26 October 2021
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
Today I’m joined by a writer who deeply understands what it means to live life on autopilot, chugging through the day "on fear and caffeine." As it turns out, that life is a train to nowhere and Shauna Niequist decided to get off. I’m happy to sit down with her to talk about writing, connection, and her next right thing. Listen in.
Links + Resources From This Episode:
- Learn more about Shauna on her website and Instagram
- Present Over Perfect by Shauna Niequist
- I Guess I Haven't Learned That Yet by Shauna Niequist
- Laura Tremaine and Shauna Niequist talk about journaling
- Order The Next Right Thing Guided Journal
- Grab a copy of my book The Next Right Thing
- Find me on Instagram @emilypfreeman
- Download a transcript for this, and every, episode at emilypfreeman.com.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Emily P. Freeman, and welcome to the next right thing. |
| 0:04.7 | You're listening to Episode 198. |
| 0:09.2 | This is a podcast about making decisions, but also about making a life. |
| 0:14.0 | If you struggle with decision fatigue, chronic hesitation, or if you just need a few minutes |
| 0:19.1 | away from the constant stream of information, and is sometimes delightful but also distracting |
| 0:24.0 | hum of entertainment, while you're in the right place for a thoughtful story, a little prayer, |
| 0:29.7 | a simple next right step, and sometimes a conversation. |
| 0:34.0 | Today I'm joined by a writer who deeply understands what it means to live life on autopilot, chugging |
| 0:40.0 | through the day on, in her words, fear and caffeine. |
| 0:44.0 | As it turns out, that life is a train to nowhere, and Shawna Nyquist decided to get off. |
| 0:49.9 | Today, I'm happy to sit down with her to talk about writing, connection, and her next |
| 0:55.3 | right thing. |
| 0:56.6 | Listen in. |
| 0:57.6 | Shawna, I would love to start off our conversation by something that I heard you say at a conference |
| 1:10.6 | once, because you put something into words for me that I already knew but had not yet |
| 1:16.6 | articulated. |
| 1:17.6 | You said you can connect or you can compare, but you cannot do both. |
| 1:24.0 | And I would love for you to elaborate on that statement for us as we get started. |
| 1:29.5 | I love that you remember that. |
| 1:30.8 | I think for me, what it came, where that came from was the awareness within myself that |
| 1:39.5 | you could interact with a person, and you could be essentially consumed with yourself, |
| 1:45.7 | measuring yourself against this person, assessing your body or your intelligence or your professional |
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