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I am back with my friend Paul Bloom. Paul, thanks for joining me.

Nice to be with you Sam.

It seems like in earth time, it hasn't been that long since we've spoken, but in pandemic

time, it has been, I don't know, a year, a year and a half. How are you?

Time is time is moving funny. I am good. Since we spoke last, absolutely nothing has happened

to me. I stayed in my apartment. I go for walks and for runs and I sit in front of my computer

and watch now. Absolutely nothing interesting has happened to me. What about you?

Yeah, I've been surprisingly locked down. I mean, actually more locked down than I even

sometimes intend. I noticed that there are days where I can actually just sort of forget

to go outside, which doesn't seem entirely healthy.

Yeah. I've learned from this that I really would not like prison. I kind of knew I wouldn't

like prison. It was going to overdetermin, but yet another reason is I got to go outside

of it. I got to go outside like walks, I like sitting outside, I like hanging out with friends.

It's just, it's really taught me that. I got to avoid finding myself in prison later

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