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And now here's your guide, National Gardening Television Host, and the Joe Behind Joe Gardner,

Joe Lample.

Hi everybody, it's Joe Lample, the Joe Behind Joe Gardner, and welcome to the Joe Gardner

Show.

I don't know about you, but if you've picked up on the recent shifting conversations

over the last year or two maybe, as it relates to how we think about designing our landscapes

and gardens.

But we've been talking more about that here on this podcast, for sure, past recent

episodes here that we've covered include conversations with Thomas Rainer on planting

in a post-wild world, that was his book, and Uli Lorimer with a native plant trust on

designing with natives.

And of course Doug Talamy, he's a big favorite here, with his two books, Bringing Nature Home

and Nature's Best Hope, that was the follow-up book, and they all talked about the importance

of rethinking about how we plant out our gardens and landscapes using more native material

for many reasons.

And these are people that are well known and respected in this particular field and beyond

to be sure.

And there are plenty more talking and writing about this topic more than ever also.

But in the face of this pressure of mounting stress on climate change, we all need to

be doing everything that we can to do our part, to slow down or stop or even possibly

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