as technology accelerates and crypto is very fast and AI is even faster,

governance isn't going to be able to keep up. Hence, where we end up,

which is just technology just wins. And, that makes you optimistic, Sam?

Uh, it makes me...

Welcome to Bankless, where we explore the frontier of internet money and internet finance.

This is how to get started, how to get better, how to front-run the opportunity.

This is Ryan Sean Adams. I'm here with David Hoffman, and we're here to help you become

more bankless. Guys, the bankless journey takes us to some interesting places,

and this is certainly one of them in today's episode. The topic today is software

eating the nation state. Technologies like crypto and AI are about to fundamentally restructure

society from the bottom up. We certainly believe that at bankless,

an economist and writer Sam Hammond is our guest today, and he's predicting how

society will be reorganized under this new paradigm and how those in power will respond.

What will the nation states have to say about it? A few topics we get into today.

Number one, we talk about crypto. It's under attack in the US, and Sam has a framework to help us

understand why. Number two, we talk about America. It was once protect, pro-internet.

Now it's anti-crypto and anti-AI. What changed? Number three, we talk about AI.

How is the world responding to this new technology? How can AI further unlock crypto?

And number four, we end with Sam's predictions that are concrete, very concrete, for the next two

decades, which Sam says will be weird, including what happens to the US and what happens to countries

that embrace internet technologies from the firmware level up. Themes of this episode, technology

and freedom, and how we balance those. And David, of course, those are themes we often express

...