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#197 - America's Shadow War on Clandestine Chemistry | Jordan Rubin

Danny Jones Podcast

Danny Jones

Society & Culture, Documentary, Comedy

4.4777 Ratings

🗓️ 8 August 2023

⏱️ 133 minutes

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Jordan Rubin is a journalist and a former prosecutor for the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office, where he was assigned to the Office of the Special Narcotics Prosecutor. EPISODE LINKS https://www.amazon.com/dp/0520387953 https://www.jordanrubin.net SPONSORS VERSO - Go to https://ver.so/danny to save 15% on your order. FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/jonesdanny https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 0:00 - How Jordan became a NYC Narcotics prosecutor 4:54 - The DEA’s losing battle against drugs 10:32 - Mexican cartels & the DEA 15:05 - Discovering the BIZARRO case 17:42 - The Analogue Act / How drug scheduling works 33:57 - Why the military started using synthetic cannabis & bath salts 37:54 - The “Synthetic Cannabinoid Kingpins” 51:47 - Nation wide DEA Sting: OPERATION LOG JAM 1:08:42 - The jury trial of the Florida Kingpins 1:10:21 - The rogue DEA chemist who exposed them 1:20:49 - Deadly consequences of pushing drugs underground 1:24:33 - Asset forfeiture 1:35:38 - Being convicted under the KINGPIN law 1:44:09 - The new super-charged fentanyl law 1:54:03 - Donald Trump indictments Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

How the hell does a New York City

0:11.2

Narcotics Prosecutor

0:13.3

become this writer

0:16.0

and write books like this

0:17.7

about the war on drugs?

0:20.1

I don't know.

0:20.6

Hold your book up bizarre so people can see what it is.

0:23.7

The surreal saga of America's Secret War on Synthetic Drugs and Florida's kingpins that it captured.

0:31.7

I don't know. You know, if I just woke up here, you told me that 10 years ago, I wouldn't have

0:36.3

believed you or thought maybe I was kidnapped or something, But it's really just an adventure that I'm still feeling out. I loved being a prosecutor. I was doing that for about five years. It wasn't that I was disillusioned or anything, but wound up going on a bit of a new adventure in media, and that's how I wound up getting into the story.

0:54.8

You're only in your mid-30s. How does one become a New York City narcotics prosecutor?

1:00.2

So most people, so I started at the Manhattan DA's office, and most people, they are coming right out of law school.

1:06.1

So you can be in your mid-20s when you're starting that. Some people are older, but it really

1:13.1

depends how you come to it. So not everyone starts in the narcotics unit, and I didn't know

1:18.0

that that's where I was going to be either. It's actually sort of a smaller office that's loosely

1:23.0

connected to the Manhattan DA's office, the special narcotics prosecutor, sort of a little known office,

1:29.0

but it has jurisdiction over narcotics-related felonies throughout the whole city of New York,

1:34.6

so not just Manhattan, even though most of the people there are Manhattan prosecutors.

1:38.3

So you really get a window into the drug world, and it's not just drugs, but anything that's connected to it.

1:43.5

So obviously, you wind up

1:44.5

getting into guns identity theft all sorts of things that crime and cartels are involved in

1:51.0

so what sort of things were you seeing like day to day being a prosecutor it varied so obviously

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