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Previously on the headgum podcast.

You've got to assume at this point in your career anything you do is going to affect Jake and

anything Jake does will affect you. Yes, that's right. I the goal is to be the last person that has to distance themselves for the other.

Would you ever, even if it ruined, if it tanks your career, would you ever prank him by destroying his?

That would be kind of interesting sort of like in a I'm yeah I'm taking you down with me style

flash mob in a way. Yeah. Be quite a turn. Right, like heel turn. Yeah, it's like a W. W. W. W. W. W. W. W. W. W. W. W. W. But then it's like at the very least I'm feeling something new again.

Ready?

Kind of, but like, why?

It's not that funny. Did it did. But you don't get the torture element of it, you know. It's not torture.

Be on the show, is that what you're implying?

I'm implying that hearing a loud clanging metal pipe is torturous it's not

torturous that's how we come back from the break yeah it's torturous and how we

come back from the break yeah I sorry would you mind putting on your headphones Well that's what I was saying I don't I feel like I don't need to wear the headphones because I can hear you guys we're all here there's no zoom aspect. Oh you don't feel like you need to wear the headphones. Correct. Then why am I wearing them?

So you can hear the sound effects?

Yeah, you're the producer, the engineer.

Yeah, making sure the levels are fine.

Yeah.

That's what I was going to say.

Are you recording?

Ali has both cans on.

Casey has one.

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