Huh, have you ever wondered what a sandwich sounds like?

Not much to it, is there?

Unless, of course, it's a Walker's sandwich.

Mmm, that is good.

Now that's what Asani should sound like.

Go all crisp in with walkers.

Delicious.

Hi there, I'm Jason Gatz and you you're listening to Think Again, a Big Think podcast.

If I had to choose one word to capture this moment in American and maybe world history, patience wouldn't be it.

From every direction, everything demands our urgent attention. Everything is a ticking time bomb or one that's just exploded,

and we're all the poorly trained volunteer ambulance squad. I don't mean to dismiss the challenges

we face. Climate change, families being ripped apart while seeking asylum, a school shooting every other

week, just to name a few.

These are all very real, very urgent, indeed.

I'm not advocating stoic indifference, but in fight or flight mode, we have a tendency to make

drastic either-or decisions.

We forget, as my guest today would have it, how to count to two.

He's New Yorker writer Adam Gopnik,

and he's the author of the new book, A Thousand Small Sanities, The Moral Adventure of Liberalism.

It's a surprising and surprisingly necessary book at this cultural moment, and it's willing to look

awkward and uncool in the eyes of Gopnik's teenage daughter and her generation by defending

good old-fashioned pluralistic, humanistic's teenage daughter and her generation by defending good old

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