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Acton, acton, welcome to We Have Ways of Making You Talk with me, Al Murray and James Holland of course.

The Second World War podcast for all your Second World War podcasts needs. How are you Jim?

Yeah, I'm a bit frazzled but you're lucky, Johnny Well, you have a bit of a town there.

Well, that's go to Sydney and back in a week and film outdoors all day every day and that will, it will catch up with you.

That will give you an even hue.

Yeah, exactly. That's exactly the words we're looking for.

The last sort of big project we did or the big chunk of stuff we did was to talk about Stalingrad and we've had an excellent response from our listeners and it's been a thing that people have really, really gone for.

That led me to thinking and also because we have Ways Fest 3 in September. This is the thing we've decided on as a theme.

It's that we need to talk about 1943.

It's an undersold year isn't it? Let's face it.

Well, exactly. When this idea occurred to me, I started to sort of draw up a list of what went on in 1943.

It's a year where more happens. Ten pole events happen, perhaps than any other.

So I think it is. I've also been giving quite a lot of thoughts to Stalingrad, what it means, what they could have done.

I mean, because you do these, we do these kind of deep dives.

Afterwards, in idle moments, you're kind of walking the dog and you're thinking, what could have been different and stuff.

I kind of quite thinking they should have just gone to Moscow.

What the Germans?

Yeah, they'd focused on Moscow in 1941.

They would have got there. If they'd focused on Moscow and Leningrad, you'd then severed two of the...

Well, the biggest cities.

But also, but they could have got those and you could get most of Ukraine and certainly west of the Deneepa.

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