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ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

194 | The Role of Bonds in Your Investment Portfolio

ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

Jonathan Mendonsa & Brad Barrett | Choose FI Media, Inc

Investing, Careers, Business

4.8 • 5.2K Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2020

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Most investors own bonds wrong—they pile into them without asking a crucial question first. Frank, an attorney and ChooseFI community member, shares how past market downturns reshaped his approach to bond investing. Instead of simply chasing stability, he focuses on understanding what bonds actually do in a portfolio: stabilize returns, generate income, or provide true diversification when stocks falter. The conversation explores different bond types, the impact of duration on volatility, and why long-term treasuries can outperform during downturns. Key Topics and Timestamps Understanding Bonds [00:00:49] Bonds are debt instruments—grasping this fundamental concept is essential for using them effectively. Ask Frank Segment [00:02:08] Frank brings practical experience from navigating multiple market cycles with bond investments. Frank's Bond Investment Journey [00:04:21] How market downturns shaped Frank's strategy, particularly his pivot to long-term treasuries. Types of Bonds [00:09:00] Different bonds serve different purposes—knowing which type aligns with your goals matters. Bond Fund Characteristics and Market Volatility [00:15:08] Duration affects how much bonds move when markets shift; understanding this relationship helps manage expectations. The Case for Diversification [00:20:08] Bonds can move independently of stocks, providing ballast when equity markets decline. Portfolio Management Tips [00:35:48] Build your portfolio around a deliberate plan rather than reacting to market conditions. Conclusion and Community Engagement [00:45:31] Connect with Frank in the ChooseFI community for ongoing discussion. Practical Takeaways Long-term treasury bonds historically perform better during economic downturns [00:19:11] Use Portfolio Charts and Portfolio Visualizer to model different asset allocations before committing [00:26:24] Stick to your portfolio management plan instead of making reactionary decisions during volatility [00:35:48] Notable Quotes "What are your goals with bonds: stability or diversity?" [00:03:11] "Diversification leads to a more stable and high-performing portfolio." [00:19:40] "Bonds provide superior diversification compared to stocks!" [00:34:01] "Focus on designing the ideal portfolio for your future." [00:35:48] "Confidence in your financial plan is essential." [00:45:58] Resources Portfolio Charts - Analyze portfolio performance across different time periods [00:26:24] Portfolio Visualizer - Run Monte Carlo simulations and examine asset correlations [00:28:18] ▶ Listen Next: Ep. 199 — How to Adjust Your Investment Portfolio for Retirement | Essential Listening

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0:00.0

Hey, everyone, just wanted to make a quick timely announcement and admittedly it won't affect

0:05.2

all of you, but for those that will, it's important.

0:07.7

New guidance has been issued from the SBA, which is the US Small Business Administration

0:11.8

about the PPP or Paycheck Protection Program.

0:15.0

For those of you that are applying for this stimulus money, this is very important.

0:20.3

And although we did not get it into the show just because we got it much later, we wanted

0:24.4

to get it out to you as quickly as possible.

0:26.9

So we've included the voicemail from Sean Malaney, The Phi Tax Guy, after the end of

0:32.2

the episode, after the bumper, if you need that information, just want to let you know

0:36.0

that it's there, make sure you stay tuned for that.

0:38.3

And yeah, we'll try to keep you updated as best we can.

0:40.6

Hope that helps.

0:41.6

All right, everyone.

0:50.0

I got an email recently from an individual saying, hey guys, I appreciate that you are

0:53.7

100% equities and I understand your logic for that.

0:55.9

But I am actually going to be approaching drawdown relatively soon and I feel and I want

1:00.6

to have some bonds in my portfolio.

1:03.6

What bonds would you recommend to which my reply was, I am uniquely unqualified to make

1:08.6

a recommendation or answer that question with any significant authority?

1:12.2

The one thought might be that you should just own them all, right?

1:14.6

You're just trying to smooth the ride, just own them all.

1:16.4

You can get Vanguard's Total Bond Fund, the ticker is BND.

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