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Reasons Revisited

193. THE CASE FOR BIG CHANGE: and building the coalitions to make it happen

Reasons Revisited

Geoff Lloyd

Society & Culture, Government, News, Politics

4.82.6K Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2021

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Hello! A big theme of the podcast has been the need for big change. We’re chatting to two people with really interesting perspectives on that. FT writer Martin Sandbu talks about why this is a moment that demands a transformation of our economy and what it could look like. Then Heather McGhee, one of the leading thinkers on the US left, talks about her new book on building coalitions for progressive change. 


Plus documentary maker Jerry Rothwell on his film The Reason I Jump.


If you pre-order Ed’s book Go Big from waterstones.com before Wednesday (2nd June) and use the promo code ‘cheerful’ at the checkout you’ll get 30% off the full price. 



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0:00.0

This is reasons to be cheerful with Edmila Vand and Jeff Lytte.

0:12.0

Hello! Hello! How are you? Feeling a little aggrieved?

0:15.8

It always begins with you feeling aggrieved with me basically when you say something like that.

0:20.0

You're not gonna say I'm aggrieved with the milkman, aren't you?

0:22.0

I'm not, I'm not. I feel like you kept something from me.

0:24.9

Oh no.

0:26.1

The big furoray over the Scott's Parajot Spokes.

0:30.3

You don't know what I'm talking about.

0:33.3

Well, I'm okay, I'm no longer aggrieved, I'm very excited.

0:36.9

I came across a news story from two or three weeks ago.

0:40.9

Can you pitch a Scott's Parajot's?

0:43.4

Yeah.

0:44.2

With the guy on the front, he's not tossing a cable, he's holding a shot part and he's about to hurl it.

0:48.9

Yeah, I think Justine has those Scott's Parajot's.

0:51.4

Yeah.

0:51.9

There's been a controversy because they have given the guy on the front of the box a makeover,

0:55.7

who is very typically a very strong, jord macho guy.

0:59.9

They've given him a makeover and people are saying it looks like Ed Miliband.

1:05.0

Are you serious?

1:07.7

Please send me the picture.

1:09.5

So I saw this in a daily mirror story.

1:12.0

It's from, I say three or four weeks ago,

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