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Whether it is people fundamentally questioning whether or not they should send their kids or

whether they should go themselves to a university or college, maybe they can have a perfectly

good life without that degree, or it's larger trends in our society and culture

that are affecting well the trust that we have in institutions like colleges and

universities.

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I'm Todd Wilkin.

Joining us to discuss the future of Christian higher education,

Nate Fisher, he's chief executive officer of New Founding, a Venture Organization focused on a positive alternative

vision for America, and co-founder of American Reformer, he's author of a paper titled

The Anti-Fragile Christian College turning disruption

into an advantage. Nate welcome.

Glad to be here. Thanks for having me. Can the disruption of

institutional trust that we see all around us, and especially in higher education, can it be an opportunity for Christian higher education?

Absolutely, and that was the theme of the paper I think I think the first thing to recognize is it's it is a disruption and it poses significant risks to all institutions that are incumbent institutions in

this system that is being disrupted and Christian education Christian

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