All right, we got a super special episode of the show. We've got two guests.

Double, double your pleasure. Double your fun. What was that chewing gum called?

Double mint? Remember double mint? Maybe. Yeah. Yeah. It was always, uh, yeah. It was always like you'd get like, uh,

it was like two, two twin teenagers boys or girls would, uh,

we'd get double the pleasure out of, I guess like a shared piece of gum or something.

We've got friend summons.

Uh, yo, longtime friend of the show and Matt and Reese, who's a long time friend of me,

but I don't think has ever been on the show before. No, thanks for having me. Uh,

and I've got both of you on because you guys both have new stuff that's come out.

Some of it you've collaborated on. Uh, and it's also sort of interrelated.

It makes, I think it makes a lot more sense to have you guys on together than, than separately.

Yeah, I think so too. Uh, I've described,

man, and, and me in a way as litter mates, you know, we kind of came up around the same time and we have a lot of the same values and,

you know, 90s, you know, scripting and web and Mac and all that good stuff.

So it's not surprised that we're still, you know, uh, collaborating, uh,

fun stuff so many years later. So one of the things, it's not even one of the major announcements. I mean, but I'll just list them up front.

We've got a JSON feed, which is a new format for syndication of, of content in JSON format.

We've got a micro.blog, which is a micro blogging platform that mantin just, uh, launched about a month ago.

Uh, we've got other cool stuff related to feeds of Brent and then, uh,

but then one of the other things you're working on right now, Brent, is you are working on a modernization or getting front,

just getting frontier to run again.

Well, it really is pretty much a ground up rewrite. Uh, you know, I have the old source code that, you know, with me and I can do a build on a 10.6.8 virtual machine.

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