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The Addicted Mind Podcast

192: Psychedelics Treatment for Addiction and Emotional Trauma with Tom Feegel

The Addicted Mind Podcast

Duane Osterlind, LMFT

Health & Fitness, Medicine, Mental Health

4.8621 Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2022

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

There's an epidemic of a chemical overdose in our country today where more and more people are sick and dying faster. In fact, a 2021 report from the Centers for Disease Control suggests that over 100,000 people died of chemical overdoses in one year. This is not just an entrepreneurial, academic exercise. It’s now a moral obligation.

Is there a way to do better than the conventional recovery industry? What does it take? Could we use innovation to build a platform that includes technology, residential, medical, psychotherapeutic engagement, and long-term aftercare? 

On today’s episode, Duane speaks with Tom Feegel, CEO of Beond Treatment. Not only does he have his own story of addiction and recovery to tell, but he also talks about how his entrepreneurial spirit has led him to create a place for individuals who are struggling with addiction and emotional trauma. 

Discover how a medicinal plant derivative called Ibogaine can help treat addiction and trauma so people who are suffering can finally unlock the chains and start a new life beyond addiction and trauma. 

In this episode, you will hear:

  • Tom’s story of addiction and recovery
  • How his entrepreneurial spirit influenced his own recovery
  • The importance of learning to listen
  • De-risking a venture
  • What is Ibogaine and how does it work?

Key Quotes:

[05:35] - “There's actually one psychedelic that is conventionally used to overcome first opioid addiction and it was oftentimes used in other types of addiction – it’s called Ibogaine.”

[07:41] - "About two and a half million people will go to rehab in the United States this year. And the statistical probability of success is debated somewhere around single-digit percentage for many.”

[11:31] - “In de-risking a venture, oftentimes, the biggest failure is giving people what they say they want or need, rather than what they truly want or need.”

[14:20] - “In 2021, the Centers for Disease Control says for the first time in U.S. history, over 100,000 people will have died this year of chemical overdose, and that it was rising. It's not just an entrepreneurial, academic exercise. This is a moral obligation."

[25:18] - "The Iboga plant is used ceremonially and has been used since time immemorial in Gabon, specifically for initiation in the transitions of life."

[28:31] - “After they take Ibogaine, the first step is they don't feel a craving. The second step is they want to change. Now they want to heal and have a sense of purpose and renewal. That's when we surround them with the conventional tools of recovery in psychotherapy.”

[29:01] - "Iboga is the natural derivative of this plant. It's actually the bark of the root. Ibogaine is refined hydrochloride that's purified and testable for its purity."

[43:36] - "Many people have come before you and recovered. I'm one of them. You deserve it. You deserve to heal because you can put all that pain to work. And you can help someone who will come after you. Never give up."

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Addictive Mind podcast. My name is Dwayne Austerlund. I'm your host, and we are on to another episode.

0:14.0

Today, our guest is Tom Fiegel, and he's going to talk about his own recovery story, but he is also going to talk about the

0:21.6

psychedelic ibogaine and how that psychedelic can help us move beyond our trauma, beyond our

0:31.1

locked experience to free us to be able to start a new life beyond addiction and beyond trauma.

0:39.3

So he's going to answer some of the questions about Ibo Gain and what it is and how it's derived

0:45.3

and how it works in the brain to be able to set up that person for success, especially if they're

0:50.3

struggling with opioid addiction or deep trauma.

0:53.3

And what's really exciting about this, too,

0:55.6

is he's going to talk about how his own entrepreneurial spirit helped him create a place for

1:02.1

individuals who are struggling who can use ibocaine to overcome addiction and trauma and live their

1:09.7

best life. But before we start, I really appreciate

1:12.6

all the reviews out there for the Addicted Mind podcast. I read them. They mean a lot to me.

1:19.0

So thank you for writing a review on iTunes and taking the time to do that. If you haven't done it

1:24.6

and you're enjoying the podcast, please do. It really does help people find the podcast and help them in their own suffering and in their own pain find a resource that works for them.

1:36.5

So thank you to everyone who's done that.

1:38.6

I really appreciate it.

1:39.8

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1:44.2

continue the conversation online. All right. Let's go ahead and start this episode.

1:52.3

Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Addicted Mind podcast. My guest today is Tom Fegel, and we are

1:59.7

going to talk about ibogaine treatment, which is a psychedelic

2:06.2

for addiction. And this is something I am not familiar with at all. So I'm going to be asking a lot

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