#191 - The DARK Side Of Ayahuasca Retreats (Watch This Before You Go)

The Higher Self with Danny Morel

Danny Morel

Religion & Spirituality, Spirituality

4.6 • 780 Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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In this week’s episode, I’m sitting down with Francesca Barone and Neils Nahm—transformational coaches and co-founders of Anam Cara Healing Retreats in Costa Rica—to talk about a topic few are willing to explore: the dark side of ayahuasca retreats.

While many speak about the magic, healing, and breakthroughs that can happen in ceremony, Francesca Neils and I open up about the hidden shadows that also emerge—emotional bypassing, spiritual ego, lack of integration, and the danger of commercialization in sacred medicine spaces.

With years of experience guiding people through deep somatic and spiritual work, they shed light on what truly makes a retreat safe, respectful, and transformational.

We dive into the importance of proper guidance, honoring indigenous lineages like the Shipibo Nation, and doing the integration work after the ceremony is over.

If you’ve ever felt called to plant medicine or are questioning the integrity of some spaces out there, this episode is for you.

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Francesca Barone & Neils Nahm:

Francesca and Neils are transformational coaches and co-founders of Anam Cara Retreats in Nosara, Costa Rica. Through intimate Ayahuasca and embodiment retreats, they guide people to reclaim their sacred aliveness using tools like somatic therapy, breathwork, and deep integration practices.

Their mission is to walk people home to their divine essence—honoring the wisdom of the Shipibo Nation and standing for safe, authentic, and grounded transformation.

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0:00.0	The dark side of the ayahuasca industry.
0:05.0	As a matter of fact, ayahuasca and industry should never go together.
0:09.2	And that's what we're going to be talking about on this week's episode of the higher self.
0:14.8	We're going to be sharing with you because it's important.
0:19.2	It's important that the world hears about this.
0:22.1	Some of the things that you may not be aware of when it comes to sitting with the medicine,
0:29.4	because this is, you know, this is such an important part of the work that we do here.
0:35.2	We want to make sure that you're aware of everything that you need
0:38.0	to be aware of. So we have our friends, Francesca, and Neal's here. Say hello, hello. Hello.
0:43.1	Hello. You guys flew in from Costa Rica to be here. Yeah. Thank you for having us. We're delighted to be
0:49.2	here. We're glad you're here. Francesca, I'm going to start with you.
0:57.6	You know, you were a viewer of the show.
0:59.9	And there was a while there.
1:03.5	And by the way, we're committed to not sharing any names or doing any of that.
1:10.3	But there was a while there where, you know, I was starting to share and talk about places to go do the medicine at and something was brewing
1:12.0	inside of you like take us back to that moment and what was happening yeah so earlier on in my
1:18.1	own journey just you know already being a little bit new to the world of ayahuasca and working in the
1:25.7	space and starting to have my own opinions about
1:28.7	how things were being run and how this industry was coming about, listening to your podcast
1:34.8	and hearing so many of the things that I knew you were about, about integrity and about all
1:40.4	these things.
1:42.4	And yeah, there was moments where I felt confused and where I felt troubled around why you
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