#191: Stalking: Taking Back Control - With Lenora Claire at CrimeCon 2019

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True Crime, Society & Culture, Exhibit C, Documentary

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🗓️ 26 June 2019

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Live from CrimeCon, New Orleans, Laura Richards and Lisa Zambetti discuss stalking with our special guest Lenora Claire. Lenora was dubbed the "Erin Brockovich of stalking" by Vice having been targeted by serial stalker, Justin Massler who changed his name to Cloud Starchaser, for 8 years. As well as stalking Lenora, Cloud Starchaser stalked Ivanka Trump, Gwyneth Paltrow and several of the Kardashians.

Lenora refused to be a victim and became her own advocate and investigator, tracking the stalker, collecting evidence and undertook her own discovery in the case resulting in the stalker being convicted. This episode is a must listen.

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0:00.0	Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Real Crime Profile add free on Amazon Music. Download the app today.
0:07.0	I have literally thousands of emails, tweets.
0:12.0	And he has entire blog is dedicated to stopping and raping me. I've just had enough. I thought it would stop.
0:18.0	I thought he would be medicated and it would be okay and that's obviously not the case.
0:22.0	What's the scariest thing?
0:25.0	The scariest thing is that he has so many of the same things that the guy killed John Lennon.
0:32.0	There's so many behavioral traits and he really exhibits all of them. It's just so textbook that this guy is a legitimate threat.
0:40.0	So why are stalkers so difficult to track down though?
0:55.0	Well, I mean because now they can't. It used to be in the old days. A stalker was someone who came to your door.
1:01.0	Now the internet, they don't have to come to your door. You're letting them in.
1:05.0	And here's another thing. It's stalking his change. So yes, you're terrified about someone coming to your door and shooting you or going to your concert the way they did with Christina Grimmie.
1:16.0	But in Lennon Claire's case, what he did was he threatened her boss. He couldn't find out who her friends are.
1:22.0	He threatened her boss and she believed she lost her job because of that. She was a casting director.
1:27.0	I could understand about saying, you know, I don't need this. If she's got a stalker who's threatened to kill me, maybe I don't need to use her.
1:36.0	Good morning, CrimeCon. And welcome. Yes. Welcome to Real Crime Profiles live recording at Pogcast Studio.
1:48.0	I'm Laura Richards, Criminal Havreau Analyst and founder of Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service and also former Head of the Homicide Prevention Unit at New Scotland Yard. And with me today is...
2:00.0	Lisa's and Betty. I am the casting director for CBS's Criminal Minds. I have a real interest in, yeah, in Real Crime.
2:07.0	And the minds that solve those crimes. And we are missing a vital member of our team, Jim Clemente,
2:14.0	who was not able to be with us on this trip, but he really wishes he could be here, especially for this very special guest that we are about to introduce.
2:23.0	Yeah, so Lennora, please go ahead and introduce yourself.
2:26.0	Oh, sure. Thank you. And thank you both for having me here. This is really special to me. And anyway, so yeah, my name is Lennora Claire. I work as a casting director as well.
2:35.0	Only I do all the reality shows that I'm assuming some of you probably watch. Also, as you learn about my story, yes, I am.
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