So, hello, this is the Irish Optimism, we have a bonus for you today, and this is a brilliant conversation that you're going to absolutely love.

With you, Tom.

With you, Tom.

That's why it's so brilliant.

No, more brilliant than any of the other governments.

It's actually got nothing to do with me, that it's brilliant.

It's a brilliant podcast, and it's got a couple of brilliant interviewers, and fascinatingly, I was invited on it before Cristiano Figeras,

which I'm feeling very pleased about.

Cristiano, why do you know a bit about this host and this conversation?

Why do you tell us a little bit?

You know a little bit about this podcast. Tell us about it.

I know a little bit about those, yes.

So, in full transparency, this is a podcast called Co-Living Conversations, and it's produced by Conscious Co-Living,

which is a small start-up company, where my daughter Naima and her partner Juan are two of the founding partners,

and I'm really so thrilled that they are working on providing information and tools to those who are working on co-living, providing co-living spaces,

mostly to young people, but not only who are worried about their loneliness, about their lack of contact,

about their lack of resources to have a place to live, and Naima herself and Juan live in a co-living space here in Costa Rica,

and so they're not just talking theory, they're actually living what they preach, so to speak.

And I'm just thrilled that they have put out this podcast. It has gotten rave reviews, and we thought, because Tom is one of the brilliant guests,

that we would drop it in here for you, because Tom talks about the intersection between co-living as a mode of real estate and of living co-living and the climate crisis and climate solutions.

So here it is for you, you're getting a real dose of Tom.

Three episodes and a rather Tom show, but I'll read you a map.

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