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I would say he's back or something to that effect but it was I who travelled to

visit James Al-Tucha today's guest such was our bond when chatting a few weeks ago on this here podcast that I flew out to

Georgia to stay with James and his family which was really a great experience.

He's a lovely lovely man and so so R is, R or is his family. In truth, I was already going to be in the States to appear on the Tim Paul podcast and that was really something of an experience as Tim's politics are a little

different to mine a little further to the right and there's usually a bit of God

talk and that kind of thing but they were very nice to me and I got to tell you it was

a fascinating and unique experience so thank you also to Tim Paul for having me on his podcast I know that's divisive I know people are going to be going

What did you mean you went on his podcast you you must be a bigger or whatever whatever I'm not a bigger anyway then after Tim

Paul I flew to Georgia and and James and I sat down for a proper talk in a studio with

cameras and microphones and things obviously because you need those to record and

we spoke for two hours with his wonderful producer and very patient producer Jay Yao

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