190: ‘Anything Luxury’ With Ben Thompson
The Talk Show With John Gruber
John Gruber
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🗓️ 13 May 2017
⏱️ 202 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Lots to talk about. What do you want to start with? Do you want to start with this Microsoft |
| 0:03.2 | build keynote? |
| 0:04.2 | Yeah, it was interesting. Did you watch it? |
| 0:08.5 | No, I didn't watch it. I was going to. |
| 0:10.6 | But I ran out of time. |
| 0:12.6 | Yes, sorry. I failed to value out there. It was good. It was funny. I really liked it |
| 0:20.6 | as I was listening to it. There was a very much a coherent vision. That took the idea |
| 0:28.8 | of Microsoft, you know, by necessity has to leap over the mobile area. To extent, they |
| 0:37.4 | certainly have in the cloud, but kind of painting a vision beyond that. And kind of from a big |
| 0:41.9 | picture, what I liked best is that at previous builds, there's always two keynotes. |
| 0:46.3 | Yeah. |
| 0:47.3 | And the first day is usually the windows keynote. And the second day is the Azure keynote. |
| 0:52.9 | And this year, it's the opposite. Azure is the first day and windows is the second day. |
| 0:56.4 | And I think that's appropriate because that's realistically where Microsoft's growth and |
| 1:00.5 | opportunities are. So from that perspective, I enjoyed it. I think the problem though is |
| 1:09.2 | all that stuff on the edge, Microsoft talked about building a sort of thing from the |
| 1:12.3 | cloud away of the edge. Like they don't have very many edge endpoints. And that continues |
| 1:16.2 | to be a problem. |
| 1:17.5 | The edge being the devices that people use. Is that what you mean? |
| 1:22.8 | Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, even on not just mobile devices, but also sort of on computers. |
| 1:28.6 | I mean, the big computer, the big criticism of always having Microsoft and even under |
| 1:33.5 | such a data is they've done a great job of sort of, you know, locking in the folks that |
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