You are listening to the place we find ourselves. I'm Adam Young and this is Episode 19.

Today I interview my friend Jason. We begin by talking about what prompted him to engage his story, to take it seriously.

And there's a lot in between, but we end with how Jason came to realize the importance of having a posture of kindness toward himself as a boy.

This is the second to last episode of Season 1. There will be one more next week.

And then I'll be taking a break to plan out Season 2 and to record more content.

The first episode of Season 2 will be released on October 1st.

By the way, if there is a topic or a question you would like addressed in Season 2, please email me at Adam Young Counseling at gmail.com.

And I will hopefully be able to address it. Here is Jason with a slice of his story.

How did you learn, when did you learn that you even had a story?

Probably 20, almost 20 years ago, I moved up to Grand Rapids from, we used to live in Lower Michigan.

And my brother had started a company in Grand Rapids here and offered a position or a share of the company for my wife and I to move up and help out.

And so it was difficult leaving what I was at because I had a very solid and very secure job.

And we had a two year old, so we'd be moving without insurance, just starting.

So as that went on, I fell into a deep depression because it was so new and I had no idea that I would respond the way I did and neither did my wife.

And so it was very hard, very difficult for her in the move because I had completely switched on her and fell onto it, just like I said, deep depression.

And so one day my parents came to our house and we sat in the living room and I had just finished up with some dishes.

I sat in a couch. As soon as my butt hit the cushion, I had the sense that this wasn't just a normal visit.

And it wasn't as it turns out. It was more like an intervention.

So I was showing up in my relationship with my wife, extremely angry, anxious, depressed, shut down.

Is that what you would say is what put you over the edge as far as beginning to engage your story, that experience?

I would say that experience was number one. I was like, okay, because when I heard that, I was like, okay, there's a chance that this could change.

So I think that part of it was someone giving me permission to actually engage it because I think when I, after that, my secondary response was, how will I ever get out of the story?

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