Hi John.

Okay, if I were to plan a surprise vacation for us, where would you want to go?

Do you say vacation?

Surprise vacation?

It could just never happen with my work schedule.

Like I can, that could never happen.

Where would you want to go?

Why would I want to go?

For fun in the sun.

Listen how stressed you sound.

The idea of actually being on vacation with you?

Nice idea.

It would be a vacation.

It would be a sleigh occasion because we do everything on a sleigh.

We dash through the snow and, I don't't know like check our phones and argue occasionally

you'd hang up on me and I'd start the show.

But a bump! From Gimlet Media, I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and this is Heavyweight.

From Gimmlet Media, I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and this is Heavyweight.

Today's episode, Joey. As a young man, whenever conflict arose, my go-to move was to roll up into a fetal ball and pray to go unnoticed. Of course, this only made matters worse.

Case in point, one afternoon while riding a trolley, I fell into a daydream and missed my stop.

Anyone else in my position might have yelled, I missed my stop or, open the door please. But in imagining all these trolley-writing strangers turning around to stare at me, my mind went blank.

So I decided it might be simpler, draw less attention, if I just jumped off.

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