He said, baby, what's the big deal?

Feel what you want to feel?

Say what you want to say, you're going to die one day.

For example, I could kiss you just because I want to.

What's the difference if you turn away?

I'm going to die one day.

Why do you waste your time?

Welcome to another edition of Ten Gently Speaking

with Dr. Christopher Ryan.

This is a very special edition.

I'm here with Dr. Charles Grobe, pronouncing that correctly.

Sometimes I want to say Grob, but it's definitely Grob.

I don't even really, on the drive down here,

I was thinking of how I was going to introduce the work you do.

But I think I'll just let you introduce the work

that you're doing now, because I would probably

embarrass you with the super relatives.

Yeah, sure.

So on the psychiatrist, I'm at Harbor

UCLA Medical Center.

And I've been interested in studying psychedelic compounds

for many years.

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