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19.09: LIVE Recording - Rituals, Rites, and Traditions

Writing Excuses

Mary Robinette Kowal, DongWon Song, Erin Roberts, Dan Wells, and Howard Tayler

Fiction, Business, Careers

4.61.4K Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2024

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

Hosts Erin and DongWon are joined by Fonda Lee and Mahtab Narsimhan for a special episode about creating traditions in your fictional writing. In this episode, we'll explore some of the following: 

-How do you build traditions and rituals in your fictional world (choosing what becomes a tradition or ritual and what doesn’t)? 


-How can you use rituals or traditions to advance a novel’s plot, give characters more depth, and create conflict? 


-What are the pitfalls to avoid (depiction of closed practices, over-ritualizing common traditions)?


Homework

Pick a ritual or tradition that you are very accustomed to and make it the center of a fictional scene. You can change its meaning or impact, but the content of the tradition should stay the same.


Thing of the Week: 

Shanghai Immortal by AY Chao (especially the audiobook version)


Liner Notes: 

This podcast episode idea was inspired by ReaderCon 2023, where Erin Roberts was a panelist.


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Credits: Your hosts for this episode were DongWon Song, Erin Roberts, Fonda Lee and Mahtab Narsimhan. It was produced by Emma Reynolds, recorded by Marshall Carr, Jr., and mastered by Alex Jackson.

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Season 19 episode 9

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This is writing excuses rituals rights and traditions 15 minutes long because you're in a hurry and we're not that smart. I'm Aaron

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I'm dong one. I'm Fonda. I'm Mahathab.

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And we are going to talk today about tradition. We're going to be talking about what happens when you take beliefs in a world

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and make them tangible by turning them into practices. This happens in our real world and it often happens in our fiction and I'm wondering how do y'all do that? Have you done it? Are you interested in doing it? How do you

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tackle it? You know, absolutely. I think it is definitely a very important, I would say a point for world building because that is how people, like first of all, you know, when you develop rights or any kind of rituals, which is, and I'm talking about experience,

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which is what I did for my novel Valley of the Rats, I built up these traditions and these

1:21.6

rights that the people in the village go through and that was how I actually discovered

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a little bit more about my people it's what they believe it makes them a little bit more real and

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it was an aspect of world building which made it really

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interesting. Same I love incorporating rituals, rights and traditions into my world

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building. If you think about our own daily lives, we go through the world performing a whole series of

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rituals, rights and traditions, many of which were somewhat unconscious of, right?

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Everything from our day-to-day practices of, you know,

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holding the door open for another person

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to the order in, you know, which your family members talk when they're gathered together.

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To big-scale traditions like our holidays and our societal values and principles,

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like those all feed so much into our day-to-day lives

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that to the extent that we can incorporate them into our fiction it will make our

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