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The Addicted Mind Podcast

189: Recovering from Codependency and Addiction with Sarah Michaud

The Addicted Mind Podcast

Duane Osterlind, LMFT

Health & Fitness, Medicine, Mental Health

4.8621 Ratings

🗓️ 12 July 2022

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

On today’s episode of The Addicted Mind Podcast, Duane speaks with Sarah Michaud, clinical psychologist and author of Co-Crazy: One Psychologist's Recovery from Codependency and Addiction: A Memoir and Roadmap to Freedom. 

One of the reasons Sarah published a book on codependency is that after working with patients and clients for the last 30 years, Sarah noticed that a lot of them were recovering addicts and alcoholics.

In her book, Co-Crazy, Sarah shares her own story as well. In 2006, Sarah married a guy, who was 15 years sober, and thought he was the man of her dreams. Unfortunately, he ended up relapsing after getting surgery and getting into the opiates.

The major underlying issue for a lot of recovering addicts is unresolved codependency. Codependent behavior comes out of fear and addiction comes out of fear or unresolved feelings. For an addicted person, there’s all that rationalizing, minimizing, and denial happening. It’s the same process for the codependent as well.

How do you then recover from codependency and addiction? Today, Sarah discusses how focusing on yourself and understanding your own needs and wants first, is the way to find peace and freedom in your life – not sacrificing yourself for someone else's addiction.

In this episode, you will hear:

  • Codependency and addiction
  • How codependency becomes progressive
  • Focusing on yourself to get better
  • The consequences of codependency
  • Reconnection to the self
  • Confronting the discomfort and being with it

Key Quotes:

[02:47] - “Codependent behavior comes out of fear, and addiction comes out of fear or unresolved feelings."

[06:17] "Many people who are codependent don't have an addiction. They're just preoccupied with their partner's lives."

[10:36] "Until I realized that I had to focus on myself to get better, and start figuring out what I needed, I couldn't change the situation."

[11:37] "The biggest fear is the person dying… the delusion is that you're controlling the other person's behavior."

[15:17] “The consequence of codependent behavior is that the people around us start to believe they can't take care of themselves.” 

[32:47] "If you can confront the discomfort and be with the discomfort, there might be a spike of intense bodily sensations. But if you set the boundary that is for longer-term comfort, then you're not going to have to experience it.”

[36:45] “Check in with yourself even if it's five minutes a day and say, “What do I want? What do I need? What works for me?” because recovery is all about getting more in touch with yourself.”

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Supporting Resources:

Co-Crazy: One Psychologist's Recovery from Codependency and Addiction: A Memoir and Roadmap to Freedom

www.amazon.com/Co-Crazy-Psychologists-Recovery-Codependency-Addiction/dp/1736720430

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of the Addicted Mind podcast. My name is Dwayne

0:11.7

Austerlund. I'm your host, and we are on to another episode. So my guest today is Sarah

0:17.5

Michelle, and she is author of Co-crazy, One Psychologist's Recovery from

0:22.6

Co-Dependency and Addiction, A Memoir, and Romack to Freedom.

0:26.5

We're going to talk about all things codependency.

0:30.0

We're going to talk about how focusing on yourself and understanding your own needs and

0:36.7

wants first is the way to find peace and freedom

0:41.0

in your life and not sacrificing yourself for someone else's addiction. I hope you enjoy this

0:47.8

episode. Sarah has so much positive energy and wants to share her wisdom from her own experience. And I think you'll get a lot

0:57.7

out of this episode. And if you're getting a lot out of the Addicted Mind podcast, please write a

1:04.0

review in iTunes or Stitcher or wherever you get your podcast. I'd really appreciate it. It helps

1:09.8

people find the show.

1:11.5

And you can also join our Facebook group. Just go to Facebook and type in The Addicted Mind podcast.

1:16.4

Click join and continue the conversation online. All right, everyone, let's go ahead and start this episode.

1:26.0

Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Addicted Mind podcast.

1:31.4

I have a wonderful guest today.

1:34.1

Sarah Michaud.

1:36.1

And she is going to talk about all things codependency.

1:41.5

She's going to talk about her book, Co Crazy, her own memoir, about her

1:47.4

own recovery and her own story. So Sarah, why don't we just start with you introducing yourself

1:54.9

and we'll go from there. Hey. Okay, Dwayne, thanks so much. Sarah Miesho, I'm a clinical

2:00.4

psychologist in the Boston area.

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