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A Waste Of Time with ItsTheReal

#188: Santan Dave

A Waste Of Time with ItsTheReal

ItsTheReal

Music

4.8817 Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2018

⏱️ 106 minutes

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Summary

This week on A Waste of Time with ItsTheReal, we welcome British rapper Dave to the Upper West Side! Dave, AKA Santan Dave, talks about his breakout hit Wanna Know, how Drake reached out to appear on the remix, how OVO did right by him, and what that one song meant in terms of radio, festivals and recognition. We discuss Dave's youth in South London, not having much of a relationship with his two older brothers when they were growing up, and what it was like to visit his siblings throughout their stops in the prison system. We dive into Dave's proficiancy at piano, his early attempts at rapping, how movie soundtracks opened his ears in a new way, the inspiration in Meek Mill's music, and how his own freestyles on Blackbox and Fire in the Booth launched him into a legitimate career while trying to balance his studies at university. We talk about his collaborations with J Hus, AJ Tracey, Fraser T. Smith, how he started doing his own production, what spurred him into getting political in his own rhymes, and how his powerful song Hangman came about. All that, plus traveling with his new puppy, shooting music videos in Europe, football referees, dreaming of Aston Martins, touring around the world, and the confusion that comes with being a rapper named just Dave. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, Jeff. Hey, Eric. How are you? I'm pretty good. How are you? Doing well, thank you. Last week,

0:04.0

we were lucky enough to go out to Queens to speak to a group of students at Forte Prep.

0:08.8

Yeah, now, normally, we talk to college kids, we talk to high schoolers. This was 90 elementary

0:16.4

school students, fifth graders. A fifth grade career day. And we were up against, because

0:22.8

it's a competition, it's always a competition. We were up against someone from finance,

0:27.1

a magazine writer, an Emmy Award winner, some other people, a doctor. But we fucking killed it.

0:35.5

We killed it. But there was an existential crisis that we had ahead of time because, again, these are fifth graders. These are kids who, are they going to understand who Stevie Wonder is? Are they going to understand who Questlove is or A sap Rocky or Jay Cole? We can't play any of our videos. Every single one of them has curses in them. Yeah. Or like, if it's not curses and it's weed puns and if it's not weed puns and it's gunshots.

0:57.7

It was just... videos. Every single one has curses in them. Yeah, this is like, or like, if it's not curses,

0:54.7

then it's weed puns. And if it's not weed puns and it's gunshots. It was just, yeah, what were we going to do? And we were told you can bring a video to present or you can bring an artifact. I don't even know what we would have wrung. I was just like, uh, and so finally, luckily, we decided, okay, you know what?

1:11.2

We'll shape this all around some sort of lesson that we can teach the kids about when people say no.

1:16.6

You can overcome that and make something from that no, right?

1:20.5

Yeah, right.

1:20.7

No into a yes.

1:21.6

That's right.

1:22.3

So way back in the day, the first video we ever did was called deconstructing Biggie.

1:26.6

And when we went to a depot where they ship out all the boxes and said, hey, can we actually use some of your drivers for this sketch? They said, no, get out of here, leave. We said, fine, fuck you. We're going to go to our local art supply store. We're going to go buy some brown shirts and we're going to make these logos.

1:45.5

And that's what we showed the kids and the kids loved it. Right. We didn't say fuck you. We did not. Once again, fifth graders and we have some sort of class.

1:53.3

Yeah. Some sort of tact. Anyway, these kids were amazing, first of all. Yeah, they asked like real, like, incisive questions.

2:12.0

One of them said, how did you decide who to advocate for? It was I mean like I mean not to us that was to somebody right but still this is the level of child we're talking about these are

2:21.4

amazing kids. They were focused. They were curious. They were funny. They were just really cool. And we just had a blast with these kids.

2:26.3

One of the most surprising things to us was number one, they know who Stevie Wonder is.

2:35.6

Yo, the second class loved Stevie Wonder. Also, when we said, hey, what kind of music do you guys listen to and the kids raised their hand?

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