188: Part 2: Jaime Forza – DEA, Military Ops, and The War on Drugs

Game of Crimes

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🗓️ 18 March 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Murph and Jaime Forza dive deep into the DEA’s war on drug cartels, the military’s role in law enforcement, and the high-stakes world of undercover operations. Jaime shares insider details on Operation Panama Express, a major international effort to dismantle drug trafficking networks. They discuss the importance of internal affairs in keeping law enforcement accountable, and the integration of military tactics into DEA missions.

Jaime also reflects on his journey from the Navy to the DEA, sharing career-defining moments, leadership lessons, and the significance of attitude in achieving success. He reveals stories from his book, The Rules of Kongo, which explores the connection between crime and Afro-Caribbean religions, drawing from undercover cases and his personal experiences.

This must-watch episode uncovers the hidden battles in the war on drugs, the challenges faced by undercover agents, and the power of leadership in law enforcement.

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0:00.0	I set up a meeting with this guy.
0:02.0	Shirt is wide open, hairy chest, as a huge medallion of an Indian and his chest.
0:08.6	You can see he had several stab wounds, not fresh, just several stab wounds, rings on every finger.
0:16.2	Not to make fun, but he had a little bit of a wandering eye, so you weren't sure if he was looking at you
0:21.7	or not. And he says, are you hyman? And I says, yeah, I'm hyman. And he just makes like this weird
0:28.3	scream and goes into a pose, like a weird pose. And I remind me Elvis and Vegas when he used to get
0:35.0	down on the crowd. And he kept that pose for something like 20 or 30 seconds, right?
0:41.3	Just staring into the space.
0:43.3	And then all of a sudden he starts speaking in tongues that I didn't understand what he was saying.
0:48.3	He turned out not to be Santeria, but Palomayombe, which is the dark side, or what they call the evil side of Santeria, but Palo Mayomba, which is the dark side or what they call the evil side of
0:55.7	santaria.
1:10.2	Apparently you did a very good job down there because you got promoted in Meredith.
1:13.2	I did get promoted as the Iraq resident agent in charge. And at the time, we actually did probably
1:21.1	one of the biggest cases in Mexico, which we dismantled what was left of the Haudas cartel. the arrest of the governor of Kedatat Rowe,
1:30.7	who was basically facilitating the cartel to do whatever they wanted in the state of King Dada Rowe.
1:38.6	He was eventually extradited to the Southern District of New York because we indicted a case in the Southern
1:45.6	District.
1:46.2	And let me just tell you right now, that's a place you never want to be indicted in the United
1:50.1	States because they will get you.
1:52.3	I mean, I love it.
1:53.2	I love it.
1:53.8	Yes, yes.
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