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Hi, it's Kelly and Convey.

And I'm David Plough, and we have some surprising news. We're

teaming up for a brand new podcast the campaign managers. I know what you're

thinking why would Pluff and Kelly Ann do this because frankly Kelly Ann we disagree on just

about every issue except about what it takes to win a presidential campaign

Kellyan ran Donald Trump's campaign I ran Barack Obama's campaign we

understand things like early vote. We understand how to leverage an opportunity and how to play defense when you've made a mistake.

2024 is an election like none other and David Pluff and I are going to take you behind the

scenes like no one else can. We're going to lean into our one-of-a-kind experiences

really educate our listeners about what to keep an eye on and discuss the current strategies and tactics that both campaigns are deploying on the campaign trail.

We're going to disagree, we're going to dissent, but we're going to deliver.

You won't want to miss this unique pairing. Join us by listening to the campaign managers with

Kelly Ann Conway and David Plough. The first episode is out May 22nd, available wherever you get your podcasts.

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