Let's have another real person chat episode where today I'm joined by my friend Kevin Liles from the Rock Retirement Club in this, the 187th episode of the Retirement Planning Education Podcast.

Welcome to the Retirement Planning Education Podcast, where you can learn all about IRAs and Roth IRAs, employer retirement plans, taxes,

Social Security, Medicare, portfolio withdrawal strategies, annuities, estate planning, and much more.

And now here's your host, Andy Panko.

Hello, all of you fine folks. Welcome back. Thank you as always for listening. So today is

another real person episode.

Slightly different one. It's not a normal real person episode where I'm going through the standard list of questions, but it is instead my friend Kevin Liles, where he and I are coaches in the Rock Retirement Club. And I'll touch on that in a moment. And Kevin shares with us six different retirement truths. He is a retirement coach and really focuses on the,

helping people think through and discuss and plan around the non-financial aspects of retirement,

sort of meaning, purpose, fulfillment, etc. He's very sharp guy, knows the financial aspects really well too,

but kind of his main role in what he does and in fulfillment, et cetera. He's very sharp guy, knows the financial aspects really well too, but

kind of his main role in what he does in helping folks is, as retirement coach, is sort of

the non-financialist type stuff. So we'll talk about six retirement truths or sort of non-truths,

actually, to keep in mind and be aware of as you enter retirement or if you're in retirement.

Before we get to it, I had a crazy dream last night that I was swimming in an ocean of orange soda.

Turns out it was just a fantasy.

Fanta.

See.

And my big, goofy smile moment is I am recording this intro on January 8th, tomorrow, January 9th

my birthday.

I'll be 48 tomorrow.

And it's a Friday.

And we are going to the Lego store.

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