Hi, I'm Helen Tupper and I'm Sarah Ellis and you're listening to the Squiggly Chris podcast

where each week Sarah and I talk about a different topic to do with work and discuss practical

ideas and actions to help you find your way through our increasingly squiggly world of work

and today we're going to be talking about the topic of self-belief. But before we get

started, we just wanted to let you know about a podcast that Sarah and I boast love and the host

is a previous guest on Squiggly Careers and they are actually back with their sixth series. And that is

the secret leaders podcast. So it's hosted by Dan Murray Sertrter and he's going to be joined in this six series by lots and lots of different people, including the Monty Python, founder and actor John Cleese.

He's going to be talking to Dan about the importance of creativity.

There's also the co-founder of We Transfer, a business that we use all the time, Damien Bradfield.

He's going to be on there.

And he's going to be talking about

his mental health as an entrepreneur. So I'm really interested in that one. Secret Leaders, if you've

not listened to it before, it's a really great podcast if you like to get their inside stories on

businesses and how they start and scale and sometimes fail. I think Dan really gets to sort of the

truth of some of those conversations. So if that is something that you might find interesting, you can find secret

leaders everywhere you find your podcast. Wherever you find squiggly, you will find secret

leaders. And actually one more thing, Sarah, if you don't mind. We've also got, so I've got all

these updates to everybody. There are two things that sort of go around this podcast. So if you're a

regular listener and you think, oh, I'd like a bit more squiggly careers if, you know, one episode a week

isn't enough for you. We also have Pod Plus. That is a weekly session that we run. It's every

Thursday morning at 9 o'clock. It's free. It's 30 minutes. it's on Zoom, and either Sarah or myself, and occasionally

both of us, we are on that and we go deeper into some of the topics that we've talked about.

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