Welcome to the tech policy podcast. I'm Evan Schwargerber. On today's show, Cuba's Digital Future Part 2.

You may have heard an episode we did a very long time ago about where Cuba was heading and what the future was for technology and the internet.

And now we've had an election and we've had a potential change in policy.

And we're going to talk about that with three amazing guests. Celia Mendoza, founder of

concierge Havana, an agency that does itineraries for Americans coming to Cuba, all sorts of

things like accommodation and transportation. Celia, thanks for joining. Thank you so much.

And Robin Pedraha, founder, CEO, and creative director of V-Star, the first independent

magazine in Cuba focusing on culture and entertainment. Robin, thanks for joining. Hi. And friend of the show,

Michael Mizell, I forgot your title. This always happens when I'm like really friendly with someone.

I just forget their titles. You want to tell everyone what your title is, Michael?

Director of External Affairs. There you go. All right. Next time I'll do some basic research

before doing a podcast if the listeners will forgive this mistake. But I'll just mention

before we jump in that when I last did a podcast on the show, I had not been to Cuba. So I knew

that I had my views on the situation and I felt very strongly about certain things

when it came to technology and the embargo, but now I've gone down. Thanks to Michael at Engage

Cuba, Tech Freedom's a member of that coalition and others who helped organize the trip. I learned

a lot in just the five or six days that I was there and it was truly an incredible experience.

And I'm excited and fortunate to be able to talk about it with you

and these incredible entrepreneurs who've made it all the way to D.C. So just to start, Robin,

why are you in D.C.? What brought you here? One, the reason that I'm here is I came with

a group of friends that we are mostly entrepreneurs.

We want to talk with people and try to sensibly size,

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