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This is Cortland from NDHackers.com, and you're listening to the NDHackers podcast.

More people than ever are building cool stuff online and making a ton of money in the process.

And on this show, I talked to these indie hackers to learn about the ideas, the strategies,

and the opportunities they're taking advantage of to get ahead, so the rest of us can do the same. If you've been enjoying the show and you want an easy way to give back, do me a favor. Leave a quick rating for us on Apple Podcasts. In today's episode, I'm talking to Jordan O'Connor, the founder of Closet Tools. Jordan is one of the more successful solo founders I've ever had on the show. So we dive into the mechanics of how its business works. But in addition to that,

one of the recurring themes that came up during our conversation was how important it is to realize

that as a founder, not only can your business help people, but your business has to help people

if you really want to have any shot at succeeding. Enjoy the episode.

So you are the self-proclaimed winner of Indie Hackers.

You tweeted about this earlier this year that if you go to the Indie Hacker's directory of products

and you sort by highest revenue first and then filter so it only includes solo founders

who have no employees and who have

their revenue numbers actually verified by Stripe. You come up at the top with your company

closet tools. So first of all, how much revenue are you generating? Yeah, actually it's pretty

similar probably back to when, well, when I posted that tweet, it's probably around like 35K,

but it's like 38K a month now. 38K a month, okay, so that's crazy.

That's like $450,000 a year that is by far more than you could make at a normal job.

And again, this is you by yourself.

You have no co-founders.

You have no employees.

I'm just picturing you in your living room and your underwear just cutting away.

Yeah, I think the most wild thing is that just back in May, it was like 18K. I started taking paternity leave in June. And then we bought a new house in the end of August. So I didn't do any code over the summer and the business doubled. And I think that's probably the most crazy part of it. I did do a lot of work before baby number three was born. And I think that kind of

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