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Programming Throwdown

187: Agentic Coding

Programming Throwdown

Patrick Wheeler and Jason Gauci

Objective C, Tech News, Programming Languages, News, Education, How To, C, Python, Programming Throwdown, Java

4.5610 Ratings

🗓️ 2 May 2026

⏱️ 98 minutes

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0:00.0

Programming Throwdown Episode 187,

0:18.6

Agentic Coding.

0:19.7

Take it away, Jason.

0:25.5

Hey, everybody. Okay, so quick intro topic here. I was talking to a lady. I won't use her name. Let's call her a Jane. I was talking to Jane, a friend of

0:31.8

mine. And she has been at her company, which is kind of like a hardware company. So it's not really

0:40.5

Jane's specialty. It's a hardware company that needs some software. Right. And, you know,

0:49.7

Jane's unhappy there. And there's all sorts of reasons why Jane's unhappy. It's understandable.

1:13.7

And she's at nine months. And so they have a one year cliff. And so she has to kind of tough it out for three more months. And it just made me think about vesting schedules because I think that companies, you know, haven't really thought this through.

1:18.8

There's like a cargo cult mentality where, you know, oh, this company did, you know,

1:24.0

this type of vesting schedule, so we're just going to copy them. And I think that some bad behavior has been copied. and when you start breaking it down,

1:29.6

it never really makes sense.

1:31.4

And so I'll start by criticizing the one year cliff.

1:35.4

You want to explain what it is though?

1:37.3

Not everybody.

1:37.7

Oh, yeah.

1:38.4

Okay.

1:39.0

So, okay.

1:40.6

If you're in, let's let's like wind it back.

1:43.0

If you're in, let's say sales, you get a commission, right? So you build a portfolio of companies that want, you know, some product and you get a commission. And if you're doing some service-based sales, then you could potentially get a commission every single year. You can have a customer that is going to use your service for the next 20 years,

2:03.2

but because you were the salesperson that got the deal, you will just keep getting commission

2:08.7

for 20 years, potentially. That's how sales works, right? And so for engineering and other

2:17.0

fields, you know, they want to have an incentive

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