#187 — A Conversation with Paul Bloom

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🗓️ 21 February 2020

⏱️ 28 minutes

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In this episode of the podcast, Sam Harris and Paul Bloom speak about the epidemic of child sexual abuse, the ethics of loyalty, eugenics, existential risk, the Bloomberg and Sanders campaigns, and other topics.

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0:00.0	I am back with Paul Bloom.
0:18.5	Paul, thanks for joining me.
0:20.5	Hey, thanks for having me back.
0:22.0	This conversation is always a break from what I'm normally doing on the podcast, but this
0:26.5	week it is a very stark break because I've been having some very gloomy conversations.
0:33.6	I just released one on Nuclear War and I just recorded one on this phenomenon that we
0:40.5	we euphemistically call child pornography, which if there's anything more gloomy than nuclear
0:47.5	annihilation, it is the details of what is going on in tech around child pornography.
0:52.8	I mean, it's just I haven't released this one yet.
0:57.5	We released this podcast, but the scope of the problem and our apparent unwillingness
1:03.4	to actually confront it is just impossible to understand.
1:07.8	So anyway, that's where my head has been.
1:09.6	No matter how dark you get, you will be bringing levity to my world.
1:13.5	Very few people say that to me.
1:15.7	I'm normally kind of a downer conversation wise.
1:18.7	I've also got views on child pornography, but maybe I'll save that until the year thing
1:23.2	lets out and we can talk about it a bit more.
1:24.9	Yeah, we can talk about it next time.
1:26.1	Actually the guy interviewed Gabriel Danse.
1:28.8	He's the New York Times writer who's been covering this in a series of long and harrowing
1:33.9	articles and they just interviewed him on the daily The New York Times podcast today.
1:38.8	So people want a preview of that.
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