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Hey, hey, what's up? Welcome to Side-Usel School. Welcome as well to Throwback Thursday.

Slash, where are they now? It's our weekly segment where we take an in-depth look at someone

who's story has evolved since we first featured them. We have been going for a long time,

more than 1800 episodes, to be precise, as we've got lots of stories to drop on. And this

segment is so fun to work on. Last week we heard from Carrie Buchanan. She's the founder

of the bombshell baking co. Carrie is also a full-time social worker who earns up to $4,000

in a single weekend, selling themed cookies at conventions. Some of her cookies feature

designs and motifs from the Walking Dead series. So she's really found a specialty or

an niche there. So today in our latest feature, we're going to hear from Joe Kim, something

a little bit different because from his home base in Los Angeles, he makes and sells what

he calls Catholic goods for future saints. And he also is seeking to advance what he describes

as the dog days of Christian T-shirt design. Because Christian T-shirts, according to him,

at least he's the expert here that used to suck. And he introduced a fresh, updated

style that people, especially teenagers and youth groups, which is a big target market,

actually, where. Okay? So let's hear a bit more about this from Joe here. What's happened

and some of his challenges, all that kind of stuff. I'll come back at the end with a quick

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