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Mormon Stories Podcast

1863: Jubilee's “Mormons vs Ex-Mormons” on Middle Ground - Ex-Mormon Cast Reacts

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.55.7K Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2024

⏱️ 175 minutes

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Summary

Join John Dehlin, Jillian Orr, Liz and Dillan for clips and behind-the-scenes commentary on the Jubilee channel’s “Mormons vs Ex-Mormons” episode. We think you’ll get fired up with us as we highlight the most infuriating logical fallacies and manipulative tactics employed by the Mormon debaters, as well as the more poignant, genuine moments from each side.

Beyond the debate recap, the conversation explores profoundly personal wounds still felt from the religion’s damaging teachings on LGBTQ identities and traditional gender roles. Jillian even courageously opens up about her inability to discuss her religious views with family members still in the church.

Can Mormons and Ex Mormons See Eye to Eye? | Middle Ground - YouTube

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to a special edition of Mormon Stories podcast Jubilee Middle Ground Edition.

0:07.0

It is February 4th, 2024 and I'm so super excited to have with me the three other panelists whom with me as

0:17.8

for X Mormons participated in Jubilee's middle ground, basically Mormons versus X Mormons episode.

0:26.0

So with me today in studio is Liz.

0:30.0

Hey Liz, hi.

0:31.0

Thanks for joining us.

0:32.0

Thanks for having. Do we use your last name or you can. Okay sure. Go ahead. Liz Gunnell. Yeah. All right. We have Jillian or hey Jillian. Hey, oh, thanks for joining us.

0:43.0

Absolutely.

0:44.2

And Dylan.

0:46.0

Hey, happy to be here.

0:47.1

And Dylan, do we use your last name?

0:48.8

It's Conrad.

0:49.6

Conrad, Dylan Conrad, okay.

0:52.3

All right, and for the old fogies who have no idea what

0:55.6

Jubilee middle ground is who wants to who wants to tell our audience what it is

1:02.0

and why it's so cool. I've been watching Middle Ground for

1:05.3

quite a while now Jubilee Media is a channel that has a series where they

1:11.6

bring eight people together to have a nuanced conversation, four on one side of the debate, four on the other, and they typically will debate pretty heated controversial topics politically, but over the past couple of months

1:26.8

they've decided to get more into some nuanced topics related to religion and now here we've got a Mormon one to watch and to

1:36.7

dissect. Yeah so today we're gonna do what I think was called a reaction video

1:41.4

where we the half of the cast of this video was released,

1:46.8

it was released today.

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