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The Rest Is Money

186. Was Reeves To Blame For The Welfare Debacle?

The Rest Is Money

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3.8903 Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Why has welfare reform got so many MPs crying? How much of a problem are the fiscal rules? Can the Labour Party stick with their election winning manifesto? After a dramatic couple of days Robert and Steph discuss how they got here and what happens next. We appreciate your feedback on The Rest Is Money to help make the podcast and our partnerships better: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://opinion-v2.askattest.com/app/41f5060f-0f52-45bc-bf86-bf3c9793618e?language=ENG⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@RestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://⁠⁠⁠goalhanger.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Visit: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://monzo.com/therestismoney⁠⁠⁠/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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They don't understand economics. I genuinely feel they don't. And they don't understand how to generate growth.

0:05.9

The fiscal rules are not the equivalent of the Ten Commandments. They are not handed down by God of religious significance.

0:14.9

And the OBR is not some great mystical prophet that actually, you know, absolutely knows what is in the economic

0:25.4

interests of this country. The fiscal rules are a guide, and the OBR is an authoritative

0:33.9

and important voice, but neither the fiscal rules nor the OBR should ever drive

0:40.7

sensitive decisions like which disabled people should be receiving benefits or not.

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What already?

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