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I'm Brett and I'm Alice and we are the prosecutors.

Today on The Prosecutors, Alec Murdock takes the stand.

Hello everybody and welcome to this episode of The Prosecutors, I'm Brett and I'm joined as always by my alluring cohost, Bial.

There's nothing I'm learning about being big, and that's really low, Brett because I'm like hugely pregnant right now.

Thank you.

It's basically the most apt descriptor slash nickname I've ever used for you.

Before I got to give a shout out to Grady at Littitz Elementary School, we had the opportunity to talk to their class today.

They're awesome about an episode. We're going to do later. It was great. We spent like an hour and a half talking to them.

Great kids, really smart and they were kind enough to offer me some adjectives.

And then at the end, one of them was like, you need to call her Big Al and I said, sure thing, I'll do that.

And so, you know, I'm just just doing what the kids want.

You're just giving the kids what they want. And you know, I think I've told you this before, but my brother's definitely called me Big Al throughout my childhood,

which as you can imagine was not in an endearing manner.

Yeah, well, you know, Big Al was the name of Alabama's elephant mascot.

And I mean, given sort of your current state.

What are you saying, Brett? You better stop there.

I just, I maybe I should stop there. I'm just stop there.

I just leave that. Just leave that. Cut that out, Jason. Cut that out.

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