Hi, everybody. Cheryl Ackison here. Welcome to another edition of the Cheryl Ackison

podcast. For years, progressive PR executive Trevor Fitzgibbon worked alongside media

matters and other smear groups. But when he ran a foul of the Democrat establishment's

narratives, he became a victim of them. Now he's an authority on the smear and an expert

at analyzing campaigns against high profile targets. Today, we'll hear from him about Tucker

Carlson, Julian Assange, the left wing smear machine media matters and beyond.

You're going to love this conversation today. Well, it might make you mad, but at least

you're going to find it interesting. I'm speaking with an insider in the world of the smear.

Tucker Fitzgibbon was a public relations executive, a Bernie Sanders supporter who represented

people on issues that he felt truly mattered. I think he called himself to me when I met

him a true believer. He has a fascinating story of how he became subjected to the left

wing smear machine, which you'll hear about later, but he's become an authority of

spotting and analyzing smears of others, organized smears, which is what he's going to weigh

in on today. Here's Trevor Fitzgibbon. First of all, I'd love to get your take on what's

happening with or to Tucker Carlson after what's happened at Fox News.

Well, it's nothing new. Media matters and other organizations that have been trained

in the media matters style of organizing and campaigning and attacking. They've been

doing this for quite a while. We take a look at Glenn Beck campaign was one of their

first big, real successful campaigns to try to get him off of Fox, which was successful.

We just run a really aggressive campaign to basically taking the rules for radicals

and putting it in action where you freeze a target and you alienate the target and you

smear the target and dehumanize the target. It's been very effective. They have a strategy

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